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    Quote Originally Posted by druski View Post
    Also it isn't just the caffeine in jack3d that give such a strong stimulant effect, it contains geranium extract, chemically listed as 1, 3 dimethylamylamine. This ingredient has actually been banned in Canada.
    Yea they are looking to ban 1, 3 in the United States as well and that is one of the ingredients that gives you that focused feeling that you get from certain pre-workouts I.E Jack3d, that is one of the main reasons why people buy that product and love it for its tunnel vision/intense focus as the 1, 3 is an intense stimulant. I have it in my Dexaprine and understand why people love the feeling of that ingredient. I haven't read into any of the details of why it is being banned or what is harmful about it but probably should if it is an ingredient that is about to be banned.

    I just tried SuperPump Max and I like the product but still looking for that intense pump, this product gave me the vascularity that I was looking for again but I want that pump, i want that skin tearing feeling and that I can keep going. Don't need the focus but want that pump and veins haha.

    Still looking around for that pre-workout supplement to grab me and lock me into that product, nothing really has yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertrogo View Post
    Yea they are looking to ban 1, 3 in the United States as well
    I feel that this possible ban has a lot to do with the use of 1,3 Dimethylamylamine (also known as methylhexanamine), being used as the main ingredient in "party pills" (pills that try to mimic the high of ecstasy). I'm sure anything marketed as a recreational high is enough to scare our half educated government representatives into passing a bill to ban it. Just my opinion.

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    In my opinion assault is the best formula compared Jack3d. It may cost a bit more but it is worth it considering your getting BCAA, glutamine, creatine HCL etc. It is by far better tasting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse7675 View Post
    In my opinion assault is the best formula compared Jack3d. It may cost a bit more but it is worth it considering your getting BCAA, glutamine, creatine HCL etc. It is by far better tasting too.
    I think Assault is decent tasting, but it does taste like sweetener. Jack3d watermelon is by far the best tasting, but it does lack other things as you mentioned. Controlled Labs has the worst tasting one. So bad, I could only manage one sip.
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    I too have been looking for a great pre workout drink. Wanted one with out caffeine. From what a trainer told me. A good workout drink with N.O. is what helps open the blood vessels and gets oxygen in the muscles while working out, and caffeine does the exact opposite and restricks the blood vessels. So I started using EVP by http://www.evogennutrition.com/. So far I am loving it. Really gives me that focus and I can really feel the muscles getting firm and solid while I am working out. Taste is not too bad. It is a bit pricey but I think it is on sale at bodybuilding.com right now. I have begun stacking it with their Cell K.E.M. Only been a few days but liking it so far.