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    Quote Originally Posted by Suicyc0 View Post
    I'm a bit tolerant to caffeine too, drinking about a half gallon of coffee a day before cutting down & using a PWO supp.

    MuscleTech's Neurocore adds other stims on top of the 330 mg of caffeine in a full serving. It still gives me a nice, clean boost of energy and pretty decent focus. Overall, I'd say the effects last about 4 hours with no crash.

    I tried Animal Rage last night... again, clean energy, but noticeably less focus. I still found myself thinking about work crap rather than my workout. The energy didn't seem to last as long either, maybe 2 hours or so.

    Both worked much better than my old 20oz of coffee 30 minutes or so before my workout. Not sure of the price of Animal Rage, but Neurocore isn't terribly cheap (~$2/serving at it's full 3 scoop dosage). I've got a trial of 1MR that I'm gonna try on Monday (squat day).
    Actually on GNC and I think BB.com had Neurocore for 24.99$ and I was tempted to buy it plus the 25% discount from GNC I would have gone for but decided to go with NO Xplode 2.0 as I have always been a NO Xplode 1.0 fan and 2.0 seemed like a reasonable choice to go with. I cant believe they have 330 mg of caffeine in it because that is about 2 1/2 cups of coffee or so but if its no crash I am REALLY tempted to try it because NANO Vapor wasn't as good as I thought it could be.

    Never really read into bullnox but saw alot of positive reviews for it but the fact its testosterone enhancing makes me a bit afraid because you are tampering with natural and along the lines of steroids in my opinion. Never really thought highly of testosterone enhancers.

    I wanted to try Animal Rage because they make the fantastic Animal Pak and if they make such a great multivitamin they must make a fantastic pre-workout powder.

    Coffee is great to drink (black though of course before the gym) but usually I get crashes from my coffee and really dislike that.

    1MR? God bless you, that stuff made my stomach sick and I crashed as soon as I got out of the gym, read a few reviews on that but thankfully you got a trial version haha

    I typically use this site for looking at some new and reviewed pre-workouts on the market http://nitrofatburners.com/weight-tr...ut-supplement/

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    Jacked 3d

    I use Jacked 3d. I'm a 2 scoop person. I like the rush it gives me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankZ71 View Post
    I use Jacked 3d. I'm a 2 scoop person. I like the rush it gives me.
    How long have you been taking it? I found after about 3 weeks or so, I had to up the scoops. Caffeine tolerance kicked in and it seemed to have less of an effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviation View Post
    How long have you been taking it? I found after about 3 weeks or so, I had to up the scoops. Caffeine tolerance kicked in and it seemed to have less of an effect.
    Yeah Justin that is the same exact thing that I had, while taking jack3d I just grew tolerant of the caffeine intake and since I am addicted to caffeine with each scoop I wanted MORE and MORE and MORE! Which to the point I was taking it and getting no jitters or anything at all. Probably should have cycled sooner but that is the one thing with some of the pre-workout supplements is that you become tolerant of the caffeine that is in the product

    I was up to 3 scoops, even 3 1/2 just because (never got the super increased heart rate and even felt tired at times in the gym)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertrogo View Post
    Actually on GNC and I think BB.com had Neurocore for 24.99$ and I was tempted to buy it plus the 25% discount from GNC I would have gone for but decided to go with NO Xplode 2.0 as I have always been a NO Xplode 1.0 fan and 2.0 seemed like a reasonable choice to go with. I cant believe they have 330 mg of caffeine in it because that is about 2 1/2 cups of coffee or so but if its no crash I am REALLY tempted to try it because NANO Vapor wasn't as good as I thought it could be.

    I wanted to try Animal Rage because they make the fantastic Animal Pak and if they make such a great multivitamin they must make a fantastic pre-workout powder.

    Coffee is great to drink (black though of course before the gym) but usually I get crashes from my coffee and really dislike that.

    1MR? God bless you, that stuff made my stomach sick and I crashed as soon as I got out of the gym, read a few reviews on that but thankfully you got a trial version haha

    I typically use this site for looking at some new and reviewed pre-workouts on the market http://nitrofatburners.com/weight-tr...ut-supplement/
    I'll hafta check the site out.

    I tried the 1MR on Monday. Energy & focus were pretty decent. Didn't crash from it, but did end up with an ocular migraine (basically the visual part of a migraine without the actual headache pain) about 2 hrs after taking it. Haven't had one of those in a couple of years, but also don't want to jump to conclusions and say the 1MR triggered it either. YMMV

    I've got another packet of Animal Rage to try too. We'll see if it's any better the second time around.

    Yeah, the ads for Neurocore mention 330 mg caffeine. The fine print is that the amount is in 3 scoops, not 1 (110 mg each). So it's only 15 servings per container instead of 45. But again, I've got a high tolerance to caffeine too.

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    I should be gettin a bag of caffeine pills tomorrow about 200mg per pill and around 300 for a fiver so hopefully theyll do the trick as i cant afford nething else
    anyone know what the limit for mgs of caffine you can have a day safely is??
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    Although I don't suggest getting anywhere near it 2500-3000mg of caffeine in a 24 hour cycle is unsafe. I regularly take in 1400mg a day (400-600mg before my workout). Just remember the effects are different for everyone. You might have to experiment a little to find out how your body responds.

    I understand a lot of the members in the forum are adamant about their pre-workout supplements. I would rather spend my hard earned money on a proven product. I don't think you will be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghight View Post
    Although I don't suggest getting anywhere near it 2500-3000mg of caffeine in a 24 hour cycle is unsafe. I regularly take in 1400mg a day (400-600mg before my workout). Just remember the effects are different for everyone. You might have to experiment a little to find out how your body responds.

    I understand a lot of the members in the forum are adamant about their pre-workout supplements. I would rather spend my hard earned money on a proven product. I don't think you will be disappointed.
    doubt i'd get anywhere near that much, apparently 5 mg per pound of bodyweight depending on tolerances etc is a prope recommended dose
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    Ive tried the bullnox and I really didnt like it. A lot of them have magnesium which might have some people running for the toilet. I just bought controlled labs white flood and I'm liking it. It doesn't have creatine in it which is good cause I bought the buy one get one free con-cret. Superpump max is also great but im sure they all affect everyone different.

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    Pwo

    I've found the two that work best for me are jack 3d and cellucor's c4 extreme. I've grown to prefer the c4 and you get 60 scoops for under 35 bucks. Jack 3d is usually a good bet for the money if you find it online, no fancy container = cheaper price to you. Also it isn't just the caffeine in jack3d that give such a strong stimulant effect, it contains geranium extract, chemically listed as 1, 3 dimethylamylamine. This ingredient has actually been banned in canada. These two, jack 3d and c4 are my current favorites, and like stated above they are tiny scoops with no fillers. Hope this has been helpfull.