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    Which comes first? Bulk/cut Cut/bulk?

    Ok--starting out again in the gym, but going to be very focused and serious this time. In the past i lifted for muscle. So which do you focus on first bulk up then cut or cut then bulk up? Probably stupid question but would like your thoughts and reasons for your opinion.

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    Presumably that depends on your starting point.

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    Bulk.

    To bulk up you need to put on size and weight, so it's abit pointless to lose weight first unless your at the point where you really need to lose weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwood View Post
    Presumably that depends on your starting point.
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    I don't see any point for anybody to do any "cutting" unless their are competing. If you are just looking to make your muscles stand out more than lift heavy, incorporate cardio, eat healthy and monitor what is going in, drink more water and get adequate sleep/rest. The rest should take care of itself over time if done right.

    If you are starting out overweight, all this should help with weight loss. You can than tweak it as you go but the above would still be your basics. Your cardio may increase more and what you eat can play an important role for sure but focusing on bulking and cutting shouldn't be.

    And the term bulking, not big on that either. How many times have you seen a guy all big looking over weight saying he is bulking before cutting? What a waste and they obviously have no clue.

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    Heh. Valid points, but those terms are stuck here. You do have to eat if you want to get big. The problem is that most people eat everything and anything without paying attention.
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    True Deviation AND there is a fine line between eating too much and not eating enough. I have this problems myself and have yet to figure it out. I want to get bigger but I don't want the extra weight it comes with however when I cut back on eating so I don't get the extra bad weight I'm then not eating enough to get bigger muscle wise. And because I'm 43 and my metabolism has slowed down, this makes it a greater challenge.

    In the last month and a bit I've incorporated skipping into my cardio which has helped considerably BUT now I'm finding like I did in my 20's and 30's, this is having a negative effect on my lifting. Finding a balance here has also always been something I struggled with.

    If I had great genetics, perhaps was younger, had a personal nutritionist and trainer I probably could be on track with what I want. Sadly I have NONE of these so keep plodding on. In retrospect, I am proud of my accomplishments and that I have continued all of these years with the ups and downs I have experienced; I've accomplished more than most. I give myself a pat on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwood View Post
    Presumably that depends on your starting point.
    bingo. you would want to cut if you wanted to get rid of fat then bulk up since you gain some bf when bulking. but if you're low body fat then you could bulk (maybe two bulk cycles) then cut. all up to you.

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    Somebody please explain to me how one is bulking up? Are you eating everything and anything while lifting so that you are putting on UNWANTED weight? If so than stop and eat healthier so that you don't have to burn off the unwanted weight. Are you a professional body building and need to cut for competitions? How much to you think you are going to gain while lifting heavy to get big that you think you will need to cut afterwards? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decu68 View Post
    Somebody please explain to me how one is bulking up? Are you eating everything and anything while lifting so that you are putting on UNWANTED weight? If so than stop and eat healthier so that you don't have to burn off the unwanted weight. Are you a professional body building and need to cut for competitions? How much to you think you are going to gain while lifting heavy to get big that you think you will need to cut afterwards? I don't get it.
    I'm eating anything and everything! haha

    but i supose even if your eating healthy, chances are your going to atleast put on some weight/have some weight on already that you don't want, then you cut to get the "beach body"
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