Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20

Thread: New Here

  1. #1
    Member jas.mcd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    10

    New Here

    Hi guys just thought I'd introduce myself.
    1st day at the gym today
    Want to losse a bit of weight (Tone up) and add a bit of muscle at the same time.
    We have got our 1st babies, twins on the way mid August so I want to see what I can acheive in this time scale as
    when babies come life will be all over the place

    Lost 6lbs in past week and 5 cm off my waist just with cutting out fizzy juice and sweets.
    BEEN SO TIRED but feeling better this week (Withdrawel)


    now that weather is getting better I will be out on my bike, last summer I was doing 14m to 60 mile rides.

    Any advice etc etc would be a great help as I am doing this alone so motivation can dwindle at points so need to keep it up.

    Any advice on eating my problem is I can be driving for hours on end at work as I cover from N.Yorkshire to Shetlands and N.Ireland.
    Not always got the chance to be at the gym due to working away but will do some exercises in my room to tide me over.
    Eating thing due to sitting in a car for hours on end (I climb telecoms masts for a living so get exersice everyday)
    Last edited by jas.mcd; 03-13-2012 at 09:36 AM.

  2. #2
    Experienced Member 1dewayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Sw Mo
    Posts
    50
    welcome to the forum .Congratulations on the twins. That should keep you busy.
    Have a Great Day ,Dewayne

  3. #3
    Member jas.mcd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    10
    Thanks mate.

    Was back again today doing shoulders/triceps.

    Legs still sore but getting there from the other day.
    Got the leg press to 190kg and doing wanting to do more sets now
    so looking to do 6 sets of 8 or at least 4 sets of 8 and counting.

    Trying to vary it but cardio does me in. bike fine as I love cycling but running WHY!

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by jas.mcd View Post
    Thanks mate.

    Was back again today doing shoulders/triceps.

    Legs still sore but getting there from the other day.
    Got the leg press to 190kg and doing wanting to do more sets now
    so looking to do 6 sets of 8 or at least 4 sets of 8 and counting.

    Trying to vary it but cardio does me in. bike fine as I love cycling but running WHY!
    Welcome mate,

    Dont train muscle groups that are sore, you are asking for injury. Also, more is not always better, 6 sets isnt necassary unless some of them are purely for warming up the muscle group.

  5. #5
    Moderator OptikaNET's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    651
    Always remember; muscles do not grow during exercise, they grow during rest. If you don't give them adequate rest (at least four days) then they won't grow at all, and you're just wasting your time.

    Kind Regards
    Dave

  6. #6
    Member jas.mcd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    10

    Red face thanks for replys guys

    I have been going 3x a week splitting my routine up.
    Eg
    Shoulders/Triceps
    Back
    Legs
    Arms.

    I was back today
    Tophalf what do you mean?
    Is 6 not enough or to many?

    I try to split it to give other parts a rest.
    I have cut out all sweets fizzy drink fast food etc
    Which there was a lot.
    I have lost 5cm round my waist and about 9.5 kg so
    Feeling good.
    Tried brown rice for 1st time and like it,
    Everyone keeps offering me sweets
    I am fed up with it as it was hard enough giving them up without
    Everyone trying to give me them. Grrr.

    I am trying to build up muscle mass but
    Toning is good too so do i have to do one then the other?

    Again thanks for the help.

  7. #7
    Moderator OptikaNET's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    651
    Usually 3 to 4 sets of 8 to 12 reps are all you need per exercise. Six sets is probably too many, unless you are including warm-ups in that.

    This is just a generic rule, some workouts differ - perhaps using a larger number of sets with a smaller number of reps. If you are doing six sets because you are working to a specific routine or style that requires that, then fair enough. If you are doing six sets because that just seemed like a good idea, then you may be overworking. The effort you are putting into the extra two sets might be better served put into a different exercise which would hit the muscles in a different way and thus maximise your workout.

    I suspect this is what Tophalf was telling you.

    Kind Regards
    Dave

  8. #8
    Moderator OptikaNET's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    651
    Oh, and there is no such thing as "toning". What people usually refer to as "toning" is what happens when the an unused muscle tightens up and becomes firm as a result of a few weeks of exercise. This is just a form of muscle growth and is not a seperate process.

    Kind Regards
    Dave

  9. #9
    Member jas.mcd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    10
    Thanks for clearing that up.
    What is your thoughts on the pyramid system?
    Or should I just stick to my reps as is?

  10. #10
    Moderator OptikaNET's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    651
    I used to pyramid all the time, because it was the way I was originally taught to work out. It has its advantages and is a great way to work the muscle but it has its disadvantages too.

    It does tend to promote laziness - you pick a weight you can only do four reps for, for the last exercise, for example. This is useful for people wanting to increase the weight you lift regularly, but increasing the weights is not the be-all-and-end-all of weighttraining.

    A recent personal trainer pointed out to me that growth is stimulated by damage to the muscle. The damage is caused by the muscle movement. Therefore the more muscle movement there is, the more damage there is and the stronger the body's signal to grow the muscle.

    Therefore four sets of 12 reps could, potentially, cause more muscle damage than four sets of 12, 10, 8, 6 reps even if the latter is with heavier weights, and therefore stimulate better growth...

    The truth is that they are both equally valid ways of working. What really matters is change as the body gets used to a particular way of working and it starts to have less effect than before. Changing things up can restimulate growth after you plateau. But this also suggests that you should pick a system and stick with it for a while - if you do all possible moves in all possible combinations all the time, then you don't have anywhere to go when growth slows up (as it inevitably will at some point).

    Having said all that, no doubt there are many who would give me an argument on the subject. My personal trainer told me to do different exercises every time I go to the gym!

    So look at the different ways of working, including the pyramid system. Give them a try, find one that works for you and stick with it for a while. Then, when it has become comfortable and predictable (even boring?), switch to something else and give the muscles a shock to keep them growing.

    Kind Regards
    Dave

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •